08-02-10 04:58 PM - Post#143531    

As you all know I attended the CA#3 gathering and Doc was right I did go home a few ounces heavier. Here you see an SVEA 123R given to me by Doc. Not pretty at the moment and missing 2 of 3 pot stands



Plus, the spot weld on the windscreen on the upper portion came off



So before I begin a restoration on the stove, I wanted to know if it worked and so I primed her and this was what I got (I also borrowed a cap as the original cap's rubber seal was very hard )



Ahhh, it would seem there is a problem so I quickly dismantled the burner only to find out what the problem was.....the stove was never serviced in its lifetime and the wick just dissintegrated



I cut a piece of cotton line enough to do the job, cut up a piece of wire mesh which Lance graciously provided (can not thank him enough really ) and began to assemble it into the burner



I applied a bit of graphite paste on the threads of the burner and tightened the whole thing with just my hand (had to wear a leather glove as my hands were still a bit tender from the handling hot stoves and biting cold during the meet) and also applied a bit on the jet after adjusting the height of the cleaning needle. After making sure everything is in its place, I began the "prime" and "we have ignition!" initially with green flames before settling to a nice blue one.



Now that I know that is works, the next step would be to braze the windscreen seam. That would be another topic and the clean up too.

Thank you Doc Mark

Ron

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A wise man once said "if it ain't broken, don't fix it!" The young one's sometimes do not follow what they are told to do - SG1

Edited by RonPH on 08-02-10 05:04 PM. Reason for edit: spelling spelling grammar

08-02-10 06:31 PM - Post#143546    

RonPH,

Before you take this on as a brazing project, you may want to consider the use of solid or semi-tubular rivets.

Link Answers.com rivet techniques

It could be much simpler to drill and peen a rivet then it is to braze/sil-braze. The appearance of a brass rivet may blend in better with the original design than torch work. If the rivets don't work out you could always pick the torch up.

Not sure what type of Brass/Bronze pop-rivets are available. Here is stainless.

ACE Hardware Stainless Rivet

If these stick inside the windscreen too much you could always grind them down some with a dremel

Hope this helps,

AR

Keep 'um burnin' (stoves that is) & Drink More Kero

08-02-10 06:50 PM - Post#143549    

Hi AR that was what I initially was thinking of. Then again the quick lesson given by BernieDawg on silbrazing + hands on made it quite easy to do albeit I still have to buy the materials. Yes riveting would be cheAper method which I can try out first.

Ron

A wise man once said "if it ain't broken, don't fix it!" The young one's sometimes do not follow what they are told to do - SG1

08-02-10 08:43 PM - Post#143567    

Hey, Ron,

You are most welcome for that old SVEA 123R. I'm impressed that you got to fettling it so quickly, too, and with great success!

If you check the bottom of that stove, you will see the number "4" painted in red. This led me to think that this stove was once used by a wilderness outfitter, and was very probably a rental stove. So, it's had a very hard life, and yet, you have brought it back to life! Well done!

Have fun with it, and I'm glad it went to a good home. Take care, and God Bless!

Every Good Wish,
Doc

The only thing that can never be taken away from you, is your honor. Cherish it, in yourself, and in others.

08-02-10 09:04 PM - Post#143574    

Great job Ron! That was quick an easy.

John

08-02-10 09:30 PM - Post#143578    

Uh, now exactly what was it about the old wick that made you think it might be funky?


Nice work, looks like you are going to have a good stove there in no time.

09-02-10 12:24 AM - Post#143596    

good job!

and a real testament to the design of this stove - that it could take that much abuse and still be restored and run is simply amazing...

i'm convinced that we'll see working 123s for another 100 or 200 years...

09-02-10 12:31 AM - Post#143597    

Hi Doc, yes you found a good home for the 123R and now that I know it works well, next step is to dress er up nice and clean and fix the ripped seam.

Thank you all likewise, makes me enjoy fettling the small stoves very much.

Ron

A wise man once said "if it ain't broken, don't fix it!" The young one's sometimes do not follow what they are told to do - SG1

09-02-10 01:05 AM - Post#143601    

Nice job Ron! That 123r will be around for a long time. I agree with AR, maybe rivets will be better on that stove, but then again, silbrazing is quite fun!

I love the green flames that turn to blue.

Again, nice job on that fettle.

later,
sam

Fill it, prime it, pump it, light it, cook on it!

10-02-10 09:45 PM - Post#143805    

Ron,

I've got a balky 123R that I need to adjust the cleaning needle on. Is there a good post on the subject here on the forum?

Thanks for your photos by the way. I'll be looking at them when I work on my 123R.

HJ

Joyce the littlest stovie.

10-02-10 10:03 PM - Post#143808    

Jim,

There were some topics about the cleaning needle but I believe it was for the 111T, its adjustment as if its too low/high either the spindle does not close totally and get liquid coming out or when lighted does not provide full power. I just do it on trial and error until I get it right.

The camera is the Sanyo Xacti by the way.

Ron

A wise man once said "if it ain't broken, don't fix it!" The young one's sometimes do not follow what they are told to do - SG1

10-02-10 10:21 PM - Post#143809    

http://www.spiritburner.com/fusion/showtopic.php?t...

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10-02-10 10:40 PM - Post#143811    

Wow. Thank you, George. That's just what the Dr. ordered.

HJ

Joyce the littlest stovie.

12-02-10 05:48 PM - Post#144006    

I had a bit of time to pickle the 123R and in the process of trying the tank and took a picture. On the left is the "before" and the right, the "after". Its looking good. Next steps are to make two pot stands and fixing the broken seam on the windscreen.



Doc, I did not remove the no. 4 at the bottom for added character "used and abused" but still running strong I wonder where I heard that from

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12-02-10 10:06 PM - Post#144034    

Using the remaining potleg at template, I fabricated 3 new potlegs and now it is almost complete .



Can't wait for the brazing torch to arrive and finish the buckled seam on the windscreen.

Ron

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13-02-10 01:47 AM - Post#144051    

Hey, Ron,

Looks great!! Well done, Sir!! Glad that this SVEA 123R did, indeed, find a good and loving home! Have fun with it, and God Bless!

Every Good Wish,
Doc

P.S. Ron, I noted your request for a key for your "new" 123R. I must advise you that the only key that will fit your stove, is the one for the 123R, 99, 199, or the last version of the 8R. Keys for the 123, 70, 80, and other such stoves, will not work with yours. For what it's worth....

The only thing that can never be taken away from you, is your honor. Cherish it, in yourself, and in others.

13-02-10 07:11 AM - Post#144065    

Ron, the pot holders look good.
You might wish to wrap some SS wire around the horizontal part, to keep pots from sliding off...

I live in California. There's always more crazy. It's a renewable resource. "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.".........Ronald Reagan "Quando Omni Flunkus Morita

13-02-10 08:07 AM - Post#144068    

Steve, I might put some grooves on it later usong a hack saw blade. For now at least its almost complete.

Ron

A wise man once said "if it ain't broken, don't fix it!" The young one's sometimes do not follow what they are told to do - SG1

13-02-10 08:27 AM - Post#144070    

Hi, Base Camp have suitable parts:

#2064 Regulator Key Op.8R, 123R, 99 GBP 3.30

#2056 Key Chain for above GBP 3.95

I bought a set last week and consider them very fairly priced.

Best Regards,
Kerophile.

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13-02-10 08:35 AM - Post#144071    

Hi, If anyone wants to make new pot legs even more authentic, and slip-proof, might I suggest grooving them with a sharp chisel hit with a hammer. Check out this post:

http://www.spiritburner.com/fusion/showtopic.php?t...

Best Regards

Kerophile.

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